To:      RTVISC - Working Group 2

From:  Dave Rutherford – WG2 Co-chair

 Subject:          Report on WG2 Task Force Conference – 5, 6, 7 Aug 97 – St. Michaels, MD

A special WG2 Task Force conference was held in St. Michaels, MD on Tue/Wed/Thurs, 5, 6, 7 Aug 97. One representative from each of the nine (9) suppliers developing CBTC systems was invited, and eight (8) attended. Present also were Geoff Hubbs and Alan Rumsey representing NYCT; Ron Kangas, Jeff Mora and Venkat Pindriprolu representing the FTA; Lou Sanders representing APTA, and Tom McGean and Dave Rutherford representing IEEE WG2.

The goal of the conference was to create a consensus standard for CBTC wayside Ö train communication message content and format.

Attendees:

AFFILIATION

NAME

PHONE

FAX

ADtranz

Jeff Stover

412 655 5346

412 655 5108

Alcatel - SELC

Bill Gallagher

416 742 3900

416 742 9088

APTA

Lou Sanders

202 898 4086

202 898 4019

ATSG (NYCT)

Alan Rumsey

212 266 8527

212 266 8536

NYCT

Geoff Hobbs

212-492-8495

212-492-8360

FTA

Ron Kangas

202 366 0212

202 366 3765

FTA

Jeff Mora

202 366 0212

202 366 3765

FTA

Venkat Pindiprolu

202 366 8061

202 366 3765

GE Harris

Florence Heidel

407 242 5146

 

GRS

Bill Petit

716 783 2017

716 783 2080

Harmon

Tod Mauerman

562 427 4273

562 427 4993

MATRA

Roland Tousch

011 33 1 49 65 71 73

011 33 1 49 65 71 19

RSE (WG2)

Dave Rutherford

716 292 1440

716 292 1446

TJMPE (IEEE)

Tom McGean

703 280 2299

703 280 0748

US&S

Denny Pascoe

412 688 2710

412 688 2307

WSL

Harry Ryland

011 44 12 49 1426

011 44 12 49 44 1440

SUMMARY

A table (Table 1: see Appendix 1) was created which compared various design aspects of each supplier’s CBTC system designs. The design aspects used were selected to accentuate known differences in each design.

At this point in the conference, discussions among the suppliers and NYCT concluded with the decision that for a number of reasons (see below), it would not be possible for the suppliers to reach a unanimous consensus regarding message format.

One fact that contributed to this decision was that NYCT indicated that if the proposed consensus standard was not unanimously accepted by all suppliers, it would not be included in the RFP for Canarsie as a requirement. NYCT made it clear that it was not in their best interest to eliminate potential suppliers from submitting proposals for the Canarsie project based on their non-conformance to a consensus standard.

The group continued, however, to discuss what they would consider an ‘best fit’ message structure, at least in so far as information content was concerned. The ‘best fit’ structure represents information required by the majority of the suppliers’ systems to implement each of the design aspects summarized in Table 1. This ‘best fit’ structure is summarized in Table 2 (see Appendix 2). While the structure represented the majority of designs for each design aspect, no one supplier conformed to the ‘best fit’ in all aspects.

Thus the attempt to create a consensus standard for the wayside Ö train message was not in itself successful. However, it was agreed by those present that there would be benefit in shifting the focus of the working group to standards for CBTC performance, function and operational specifications.

Such a focus would necessarily require active participation by the transit agencies intent on procuring CBTC systems. This topic will be presented to a group of transit agencies meeting at PATH in New York on 29 September. If there is commitment among the agencies, the proposed change in focus will be presented to the members of WG2 and the full IEEE committee for a decision.

A group of transit agencies met on 24, 25 July at NYCT to discuss the implications of interoperability standards in general and the WG2 efforts to date. The minutes of this meeting (written by Alan Rumsey) are included in Appendix 3.

ABBREVIATED MINUTES

Day 1: August 5th

!           Tom McGean and Lou Sanders welcomed the group and stressed the unique window of opportunity for standardization presented by this meeting.

!           Geoff Hubbs and Alan Rumsey gave a brief review of NYCT’s requirements for the Canarsie project:

NYCT requires a ‘smart’ vehicle, i.e., able to perform specified tasks without information from the wayside in the event of a communication failure. NYCT desires at least three qualified suppliers, and interoperability is a key issue.

There is at this point no preferred radio system, and the radio reliability and functionality represent the largest unknown. LIRR may participate in NYCT’s test phase.

If an IEEE interoperability standard can be adopted unanimously, NYCT will specify it as a requirement. It was intially stated that in the case of a non-unanimous consensus standard, those proposers conforming to the standard will be favorably considered, but it will not be a requirement. Later, NYCT indicated that no favorable consideration would be given if conforming would require a design change by the supplier.

Phase I of the Canarsie project will use a two mile test track on the Culver line, and a nominal $1 M will be provided to each of the three suppliers selected for Phase I. Phase I award: April - Aug, 1998. Phase I testing will begin in early 1999 for 6 months. Award for Phase II will be made in Oct. 1999, and the selected supplier will create the interoperability standard.

The specification included in the RFP is based on performance requirements; system architecture is not defined, however several requirements require considerable intelligence on the vehicle.

!           Alan Rumsey summarized the 24, 25 July transit agency meeting in NYC on CBTC interoperability and functional and performance requirements. (see Appendix 3 for meeting minutes).

!           Dave Rutherford defined the purpose of the meeting and outlined the first day’s agenda.

!           Nine suppliers were invited to the conference. All attended with the exception of GEC Alsthom. All suppliers attending came prepared with information describing their system’s topographical representation methodology and train> wayside, wayside>train interface data.

!           A preliminary version of Table 1 was proposed as a mechanism for identifying key differences in the design aspects of each supplier’s CBTC system which would affect the train Ö wayside message structure. Additional functional & design aspects were added. Each supplier indicated which of the listed aspects were applicable to his system. The completed Table 1 (see Appendix 1) shows in bold the various aspects in which a majority of the suppliers were essentially equivalent.

!           The process of negotiating a consensus standard for wayside Ö train message structure and format began with a discussion of the various methods used by each supplier to represent topographical data. It was considered necessary to reach agreement on topographical representation prior to discussing actual message structure.

            At this point, it became apparent that several suppliers were sufficiently divergent in their developed CBTC system designs so that a unanimous standard would not be possible. This being the case, it was agreed not to attempt negotiating a consensus standard and that some benefit could be gained by discussing a "best fit’ standard for topographic data representation and wayside Ö train message structure.

            Day 2: August 6th

!           The group completed its discussion of the ‘best fit’ standard, summarized in Appendix 2.

!           Ron Kangas advised that FTA was disappointed that a more serious effort had not been made on an interface standard, and indicated FTA’s concern that this could result in a situation where NYCT had a unique CTBC system.

            Day 3: August 7th

 Regards,

David B. Rutherford, Jr. , WG2 Co-Chair

 

TOP LEVEL CATEGORIES

ALC

ADZ

GEC

GEH

GRS

HAR

MAT

USS

CSEE

WSL

1. TOPOGRAPHIC DATA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- on board

 

X

 

X

X

X

X

X

X

- broadcast to train

(Ö )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- wayside

X

X

 

X

(Ö )

X

 

 

X

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. LOA XMIT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- xmit each train

X

X

 

X

X

X

 

 

X

- broadcast to zone

 

 

 

 

 

 

X

X

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. LOA (obstacle or EOR)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- actual obs. Position

 

X

 

X

X

X

X

X

X

- target point includes safety margin from obs.

X

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4. ROUTE XMIT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- as switch positions

 

 

 

 

X

X

X

X

X

- as segments

 

X

 

X

 

 

 

 

 

- no route info xmitted

X

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5. OBSTACLE XMIT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- civil limits as LOA

X

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- TSR treated as LOA

X

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- unaligned/open switch

X

X

 

X

X

X

X

X

X

- vehicle ahead

X

X

 

X

X

X

X

X

X

- End of Route

X

X

 

X

X

X

-

-

X

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

6.TEMP SPEED RESTRIC’s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- acknowledge required

 

 

 

X

 

 

X

X

 

- treated as temp. topo data

 

X

 

X

X

X

X

X

X

- rcv’d as LOA obstacle

X

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

7. ONBOARD SAFE SPEED LIMIT CALC

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- uses topo data

 

X

 

X

X

X

X

X

X

- topo data not used

X

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- route info used

 

X

 

X

X

X

X

X

X

- route info not used

X

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

8. CIVIL SPEED

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- calc from topo data

 

X

 

X

X

X

X

X

X

- xmitted as LOA data

X

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

9. FREQ MSG XMIT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- periodic

1s

1s

 

 

1s

PTG

2s

2s

1s

- non-periodic (as needed) - (within range)

 

 

 

X

 

LOA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10. EMERGENCY STOP

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- periodic permiss to go

(Ö )

X

 

 

X

X

X

X

 

- emerg stop request

X

X

 

X

 

 

 

 

X

- broadcast

 

 

 

 

 

X

X

X

X

- per train

X

X

 

X

X

 

X

X

X

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

11. W>T DATA RATE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- (assume 20 trains per zone)

4*1200

64K

 

?

38.4K

9.6K

9.6K

9.6K

2.4K

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

12. T>W DATA RATE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- (assume 20 trains per zone)

4*600

64K

 

?

38.4K

9.6K

4.8K

4.8K

2.4KM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

13. VIRTUAL/MOVING BLOCK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- virtual

 

 

 

 

Ö

 

X

X

 

- moving block

X

X

 

X

Ö