IEEE Rail Transit Vehicle Interface Standards Committee

 

MEETING OF WORKING GROUP #2

COMMUNICATION BASED TRAIN CONTROL

 

Date:            February 18, 2000 - 9:00 am

 

Place: SEPTA Headquarters, 1234 Market Street, Philadelphia (13th floor)

 

Attendees:

 

Name

Representing

Phone

Fax

John Belvedere

LIRR

(718) 558 3473

(718) 558 3269

Paul Bousquet

Volpe Center

(617) 494 2171

(617) 494 2318

Fred Childs

PATH

(201) 216 6270

(201) 216 6576

Bill Gallagher

Alcatel Canada

(412) 742 3900

(416) 742 9088

Harvey Glickenstein

PB Transit & Rail Sys

(973) 565 4820

(973) 824 3140

Vic Grappone

LIRR

(718) 558 3234

(718) 558 3269

Howard Gregson

DMJM

(410) 637 1729

(410) 576 1305

Adrian Hellman

Volpe Center

(617) 494 2171

(617) 494 2318

Geoff Hubbs

NYCT

(212) 492 8495

(212) 492 8145

David Jones

LTK

(215) 542 0700

(215) 542 7676

Ken Karg

Adtranz

(412) 655 5225

(412) 655 5108

John LaForce

SEPTA

(215) 580 8228

(215) 580 8282

Didier Lapalus

Alstom

(716) 783 2211

(716) 783 2080

John Lewis

MBTA

(617) 222 5540

(617) 222 3918

Martin Lukes

WMATA

(202) 962 1111

(202) 962 2437

Bob MacDonald

T.K. Dyer

(781) 862 2075

(781) 861 7766

Rob McHugh

SkyTrain

(604) 520 3641

(604) 521 2818

Bob Miller

BART

Participated via teleconference

Ed Mortlock

Parsons Trans. Grp.

(202) 775 3407

(202) 775 3389

Lang Nguyen

FRA/R&D

(202) 493 6349

(202) 493 6333

Denny Pascoe

US&S

(412) 688 2710

(412) 688 2307

Venkat Pindiprolu

FTA

(202) 366 8061

(202) 366 3765

Alan Rumsey

Parsons Trans. Grp.

(212) 266 8527

(212) 266 8536

Lou Sanders

APTA

(202) 898 4086

(202) 898 4070

Tom Sullivan

TSD

(510) 531 8411

(510) 531 7372

Errol Taylor

HNTB

(510) 208 4599

(510) 208 4595

Robert Walsh

Adtranz

(412) 655 5230

(412) 655 5108

John Vogler

NJT

(973) 491 8117

(973) 491 8479

 

 

Minutes of Meeting:

 

1.0  INTRODUCTIONS

 

Alan Rumsey thanked John LaForce and SEPTA for hosting this meeting of Working Group #2 (WG2) of the Rail Transit Vehicle Interface Standards Committee (RTVISC).

 

 2.0  MEETING OBJECTIVES

 

IEEE Std. 1474.1-1999, “Communications-Based Train Control Performance and Functional Requirements”, was issued by the IEEE in December 1999, following two years of effort by WG2.

 

Alan Rumsey summarized that the objective of this meeting was to determine if it is appropriate at this time for WG2 to continue its efforts to develop CBTC-related consensus standards, and if so, to develop the Scope and Purpose for such standardization initiatives. 

 

Any recommendations from this WG2 meeting will be forwarded to the full Rail Transit Vehicle Interface Standards Committee at is meeting in March.

 

(Post Meeting Note: The Conclusions/Recommendations arising from this meeting (Section 6.0 below) were presented to the full Rail Transit Vehicle Interface Standards Committee (RTVISC) at its meeting in Rancho Cucamonga, California, on March 14, 2000.  The RTVISC endorsed the WG2 Conclusions/Recommendations, as noted in the body of these minutes).

 

3.0  "BRAINSTORM" POTENTIAL NEW CBTC STANDARDS INITIATIVES

 

The following candidates were identified by WG2 as potential new CBTC standards initiatives:

 

·         "Open" Items from IEEE Std. 1474.1-1999

·         CBTC Standard to Address the Operation of Trains without Crews (ref. para 4.5)

·         Environmental Requirements for CBTC Wayside Equipment (ref. para 5.5)

·         Interoperability Interface Standards for CBTC Systems (ref. para 6.4 and original PAR 1474)

 

·        Other Proposals Submitted by WG2 Members

·         CBTC Acceptance Testing and Preventative Maintenance Standards

·         Standard for a Data Communications Subsystem for CBTC Systems

·         Standard for Definition of CBTC Data Elements

·         CBTC/Lonworks/IEEE 1473 Interface Standards

·         Graphical Display Standards

·         Expanded Grade Crossing Functional Requirements for CBTC Systems

 

4.0  DISCUSSION ON EACH IDENTIFIED CBTC STANDARD INITIATIVE

 

Each of the above candidates was discussed by WG2.  Following the discussion, WG2 participants voted on whether or not effort should be expended at this time to develop a standard in the identified area.

 

The distribution of attendees voting on the potential standards initiatives was as follows:

 

Attendees:

#

%

Consumers:

17

61%

Producers:

5

18%

Others:

6

21%

 

 

 

TOTAL

28

 

 

5.0  ESTABLISH CONSENSUS ON NEXT STEPS

 

The vote on the potential standard initiatives was as follows:

 

Ref.

Potential Standard Initiative

For

Against

Abstain

%Vote

%For

 

 

(a)

(b)

(c)

(d) = (a+b)/(a+b+c)

(e) = a/(a+b)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1

CBTC Standard to Address the Operation of Trains without Crews

19

2

7

75%

90%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2

Environmental Requirements for CBTC Wayside Equipment

28

0

0

100%

100%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3

Interoperability Interface Standards for CBTC Systems

5

23

0

100%

18%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3a

Standard for a Data Communications Subsystem for CBTC Systems

12

7

9

68%

63%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3b

Standard for Definition of CBTC Data Elements

11

15

2

93%

42%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3c

CBTC/IEEE Std. 1473 Interfaces

 

6

10

11

59%

38%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4a

Acceptance Testing Standards for CBTC Systems

14

8

6

79%

64%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4b

Maintenance Standards for CBTC Systems

5

15

8

71%

25%