IEEE RAIL TRANSIT VEHICLE INTERFACE STANDARDS COMMITTEE
WORKING GROUP 2
Communications Based Trains Control Performance/Functional Requirements
Minutes of Meeting
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Date: |
March 25, 1998 |
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Location: |
APTA, Washington, DC |
Attendees:
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Name |
Company |
Phone |
Fax |
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George Anagnostopoulos |
Volpe Center |
(617) 494 2087 |
(617) 494 2318 |
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Robert Carter |
Conrail |
(215) 209 3711 |
(215) 209 2304 |
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Fred Childs |
PATH |
(201) 216 6648 |
(201) 216 6576 |
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Patty Devlieg |
SF MUNI |
(415) 554 3465 |
(415) 554 3478 |
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Jeff Eilenberg |
LS Transit Systems |
(609) 716 9790 |
(609) 716 9798 |
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Bill Gallagher |
Alcatel |
(416) 742 3900 |
(416) 742 9088 |
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Harold Gillen |
US&S |
(412) 688 2776 |
(412) 688 2889 |
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Vic Grappone |
LIRR |
(718) 558 3547 |
(718) 558 3537 |
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Jim Hoelscher |
GRS |
(716) 783 2118 |
(716) 783 2080 |
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Seyed Hosseini |
Metro North |
(914) 271 1737 |
(914) 271 1644 |
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Geoff Hubbs |
NYCT |
(212) 492 8495 |
(212) 492 8145 |
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Dave Jones |
LTK Engineering |
(215) 542 0700 |
(215) 542 7676 |
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John LaForce |
SEPTA |
(215) 580 8228 |
(215) 580 8282 |
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John Lewis |
MBTA |
(617) 222 5540 |
(617) 222 3918 |
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Ron Lindsey |
CSX |
(904) 366 5399 |
(904) 359 3904 |
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Martin Lukes |
WMATA |
(202) 962 1111 |
(202) 962 2437 |
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Dave Male |
RTS |
(212) 986 9866 |
(212) 988 9855 |
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Rob McHugh |
BCRTC (SkyTrain) |
(604) 520 3641 |
(604) 521 2818 |
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Ed Mortlock |
Booz, Allen & Hamilton |
(703) 917 2959 |
(703) 902 3631 |
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Lang Nguyen |
FRA/R&D |
(201) 632 3249 |
(201) 632 3854 |
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Bill Palko |
Hatch Mott MacDonald |
(412) 374 9890 |
(412) 374 9894 |
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Bill Petit |
Safetran Systems |
(716) 349 2305 |
(716) 349 2306 |
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Venkat Pindiprolu |
FTA |
(202) 366 8061 |
(202) 366 3765 |
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Omar Rezzoug |
MATRA |
(33) 149657298 |
(33) 149657279 |
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Alan Rumsey |
PTG - De Leuw, Cather |
(212) 266 8527 |
(212) 266 8536 |
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Lou Sanders |
APTA |
(202) 898 4086 |
(202) 898 4070 |
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Jeffrey Smith |
Harmon Industries |
(816) 229 3345 |
(816) 229 0556 |
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Errol Taylor |
BART |
(650) 689 8460 |
(650) 689 8316 |
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John Vogler |
NJT |
(973) 491 8117 |
(973) 491 8479 |
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Ken Vought |
RT&T Inc. |
(914) 271 5223 |
(914) 271 5247 |
1.0 MEETING OBJECTIVE
To follow-up on action items from the last WG2 meeting, held on January 21, 1998 in Melbourne Beach, Florida, and to review key sections of draft D2.0/D2.1 of the proposed standard.
(Note: The contents of draft D2.0 and draft D2.1 are identical; draft D2.0 includes strikeouts/underlines showing changes since draft D1.0 whereas draft D2.1 is a "clean" version.)
2.0 HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS
2.1 Introductions
Alan Rumsey, WG2 chair, welcomed participants to this meeting of the IEEE Rail Transit Vehicle Interface Standards Committee, Working Group #2 (WG2), developing performance and functional requirements standards for Communications-Based Train Control (CBTC) systems. This meeting was hosted by APTA, and Alan Rumsey thanked Lou Sanders and the APTA staff for all of the meeting arrangements.
Bill Millar, APTA President, and Tony Kouneski, Vice President Member Services, also welcomed the meeting participants.
Alan Rumsey noted that a meeting of the CBTC Peer Group was being held after the WG2 meeting, on March 26, also in Washington. This meeting was being hosted by WMATA, and all transit agency representatives were invited to attend.
2.2 Minutes of Meeting held on January 21, 1998
The minutes of the previous WG2 meeting, held in Melbourne Beach, Florida on January 21, 1998 were accepted as written.
2.3 Action Items from Meeting held on January 21, 1998
Action items from the previous WG2 meeting were statused as follows:
1) Alan Rumsey advised that a WG2 Comments Database has now been established to record and provide visibility of written comments received on draft versions of the proposed standard. A printout of the database was tabled showing Open and Closed items and was discussed further under agenda item 2.7, below. Action Closed.
2) Section 4 of draft D1.0 of the proposed standard, regarding normal and failure operating modes, has been updated in draft D2.0 for further review at this meeting (ref. agenda item 4.0 below). Action Closed.
3) To date, no response has been received from any of the suppliers with respect to definition of typical values for the CBTC parameters that contribute to the minimum achievable headway. This action therefore remains Open.
4) Alan Rumsey advised that Denny Pascoe had undertaken a sensitivity analysis to attempt to relate variations in identified CBTC parameters to variations in minimum achievable headways. A copy of this analysis was tabled for the information of meeting participants. Item Closed.
5) Section 5.1 of draft D1.0 of the proposed standard, regarding CBTC contributing factors to minimum achievable headways, has been updated in draft D2.0 for further review at this WG2 meeting (ref. agenda item 5.0 below). Action Closed.
6) Tom McGean, Rob McHugh and Dave Male have provided specific written comments on the proposed CBTC safety goal. Action Closed.
7) Section 5.3 of draft D1.0 of the proposed standard, regarding safety requirements, has been updated by Jim Hoelscher and Alan Rumsey in draft D2.0 for further review at this WG2 meeting (ref. agenda item 6.0 below). Action Closed.
8) George Anagnostopoulos advised that no specific written comments had been received on his discussion paper on CBTC availability. This topic was discussed further under agenda item 7.0 below. Action Closed.
9) Fred Childs, Jeff Eilenberg, Bill Gallagher, Dave Male and Rob McHugh have provided written comments on draft D1.0 of the proposed standard. Action Closed.
10) Draft D1.0 of proposed standard has been updated to draft D2.0 in response to comments received, and has been re-issued to WG2 members and friends for further review at this WG2 meeting. Action Closed.
2.4 Status of Project Authorization Request (PAR)
Alan Rumsey advised that the revised PAR for the Working Group was still to be formally approved by the IEEE Standards Board at their next meeting, but no problems were anticipated.
[Post meeting note: PAR has now been approved by the IEEE Standards Board.]
2.5 Working Group Membership
The current WG2 mailing list consists of approximately 110 members and friends and was reviewed and updated by the meeting participants.
2.6 Potential Impacts of FRA Notification of Proposed Rule Making
The FRA has proposed new Federal regulations that would require all trains operating on the north end of the Northeast Corridor (NEC) between Boston, Massachusetts and New York, New York, to be controlled by locomotives equipped to respond to a new advanced civil speed enforcement system (ACSES) in addition to the automatic train control (ATC) system that is currently required on the NEC.
The proposed speed enforcement system is not a continuous train control system, but rather an "add-on" to the existing ATC system. As such, the meeting participants could not identify any immediate impacts of this FRA notification of the work of the CBTC working group. John LaForce and John Vogler agreed to keep the working group appraised of any further developments in this area.
2.7 Database for Tracking Working Group Member Comments
Alan Rumsey advised that all written comments received on draft versions of the proposed CBTC standard would be entered into the WG2 Comments Database (with the exception of minor typographical comments). A printout of the database will be tabled at each working group meeting. (It is not intended to make the database accessible on the web site). The printout would identify any new comments added to the database since the last meeting, and all comments that had been closed since the last meeting. (Comments that had been closed prior to the last meeting will be archived, and not included in the current printout. All comments will be retained, however, to provide an historical record of the workings of the group).
The meeting participants approved the use of the WG2 Comments Database as described.
2.8 Next Meeting
The next WG2 meeting will be hosted by MUNI (Patty DeVlieg) and will be held in San Francisco on Wednesday, July 15, 1998. WG2 members and friends with be advised of specific details regarding meeting location etc. in due course.
A CBTC Peer Group meeting (open to transit agency representatives only) is planned for July 16/17, also at MUNI. The second day of this meeting will include a tour of the MUNI subway line to observe operation of the Alcatel ATCS system which is scheduled to be in operation on the line by that date.
3.0 REVIEW OF SECTION 3.2 ("DEFINITIONS")
Section 3.2 of draft D2.0/D2.1 ("Definition") was reviewed by the meeting participants, and current definitions were accepted as written with the following exceptions:
Section 3.2 will be updated in draft D3.0 to reflect the above agreements/comments.
4.0 REVIEW OF SECTION 4.5 ("TRAIN OPERATING MODES)
Section 4.5 of draft D2.0/D2.1 ("Train operating modes") was reviewed by the meeting participants, and was generally accepted as written with the following comments:
Section 4.0 will be updated in draft D3.0 to reflect the above comments.
5.0 REVIEW OF SECTION 5.1 ("HEADWAY REQUIREMENTS")
Section 5.1 of draft D2.0/D2.1 ("Headway requirements") was reviewed by the meeting participants and generally accepted as written with the following comments:
Section 5.1 will be updated in draft D3.0 to reflect the above comments.
6.0 REVIEW OF SECTION 5.3 ("SYSTEM SAFETY REQUIREMENTS")
Section 5.3 of draft D2.0/D2.1 ("System safety requirements") was reviewed by the meeting participants and generally accepted as written with minor comments.
Jim Hoelscher will review wording to ensure compatibility with the draft WG4 standard, to specifically include use of terms such as "hazard" and "risk".
Vic Grappone agreed to provide inputs regarding the proposed quantitative safety criteria, based on LIRR experience and expectations with respect to CBTC.
Section 5.3 will be updated in draft D3.0 to reflect comments received.
7.0 REVIEW OF SECTION 5.4 ("SYSTEM ASSURANCE REQUIREMENTS")
Section 5.4 of draft D2.0 ("System assurance requirements") was reviewed by the meeting participants, and the following comments were noted:
consideration will be given to including a subsection on system security requirements, particularly as related to the security and integrity of messages communicated over the RF data communications link.
Transit agencies agreed to provide further inputs to this section regarding their expectations with respect to reliability/availability/maintainability of CBTC systems.
George Anagnostopoulos agreed to update his discussion paper to include a delay value weighting factor in the determination of CBTC system availability.
Section 5.3 will be updated in draft D3.0 to reflect comments received.
8.0 ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON DRAFT D2.0 OF STANDARD
The remaining sections of draft D2.0/D2.1were reviewed by the meeting participants, and the following comments were noted:
Meeting participants were invited to submit any additional comments in writing to the WG2 chair.
Draft D2.1 of the proposed standard will be updated to reflect comments received.
9.0 SUMMARY OF MEETING ACTION ITEMS AND OBJECTIVES FOR NEXT MEETING
9.1 Assignment of Actions
The following specific action items were recorded:
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For the supplier’s CBTC system, define specific values for the CBTC parameters that contribute to the minimum achievable headway (i.e. complete Annex C of draft standard). |
All Suppliers |
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Provide comments/suggestions to WG2 chair regarding the definitions of "emergency braking" and "maximum service braking", as defined by working group #5 (WG5). WG2 chair to consolidate and forward to WG5. |
All |
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3. |
Update Section 3.2 (Definitions) in draft D3.0 to reflect the meeting agreements. |
Alan Rumsey |
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Provide input as to expectations with respect to various levels of degraded modes, to include definition of operating modes currently employed. |
All Transit Agencies |
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5. |
Update Section 4.5 (Train operating modes) in draft D3.0 to reflect the meeting discussions and inputs from transit agencies. |
Alan Rumsey |
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Update Section 5.1 (Headway requirements) in draft D3.0 to reflect the meeting discussions. |
Alan Rumsey |
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7. |
Review current wording in Section 5.3 to ensure compatibility with the draft WG4 standard, to specifically include use of terms such as "hazard" and "risk". |
Jim Hoelscher |
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Provide inputs regarding the proposed quantitative safety criteria, based on LIRR experience and expectations with respect to CBTC. |
Vic Grappone |
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9. |
Update Section 5.3 (System safety requirements) in draft D3.0 to reflect the meeting discussions and inputs received. |
Alan Rumsey |
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10. |
Provide further inputs regarding expectations with respect to reliability/availability/maintainability of CBTC systems. |
All Transit Agencies |
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11. |
Update availability discussion paper to include a delay value weighting factor in the determination of CBTC system availability. |
George Anagnostopoulos |
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12. |
Update Section 5.4 (System availability requirements) in draft D3.0 to reflect the meeting discussions and inputs received. |
Alan Rumsey |
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13. |
Provide inputs with respect to section 6.1.15 ("Grade crossing warning"). |
Vic Grappone |
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Review and provide any other written comments on Draft D2.0/2.1 of the proposed standard by April 30, 1998. |
All |
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Update draft D2.1 of proposed standard in response to comments received (up to April 30, 1998), and re-issue to WG2 members and friends. |
Alan Rumsey |
9.2 Objectives for Next Meeting
The objectives of the next WG2 meeting will be to follow-up on action items from this meeting, and to commence a more detailed review of Section 6.1 of the proposed standard ("Automatic train protection functions").
The schedule prior to the next WG2 will be as follows:
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April 30, 1998 |
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May 15, 1998 |
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June 15, 1998 |
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July 1, 1998 |
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July 15, 1998 |
10.0 ANY OTHER BUSINESS
Alan Rumsey then closed the meeting thanking the working group participants for their attendance and active involvement in the various discussions, and again thanking APTA for hosting the meeting and providing an excellent lunch and refreshments.
Minutes prepared by:
Dr. Alan F. Rumsey
Chair, WG2